Comments on: Debian Summer of Code ‘08 : Where are they now (part 3/3) http://www.milliways.fr/2009/02/02/debian-2008-where-now-3/ Obey Arthur Liu . blog() Thu, 21 May 2009 12:09:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Philippe Cloutier http://www.milliways.fr/2009/02/02/debian-2008-where-now-3/comment-page-1/#comment-2087 Philippe Cloutier Wed, 18 Mar 2009 04:55:05 +0000 http://www.milliways.fr/?p=90#comment-2087 @2 I had not tried aptitude-gtk. I now gave it a reasonable try. The first thing that stroke me was bugs and missing features, but I eventually succeeded to do some basic operations. I did not really try the original aptitude, so it's possible that aptitude-gtk is comparable to it. Nevertheless, aptitude-gtk would have to "compete" with Synaptic, and there's a long way to go before getting there. That said, some aspects were interesting (in particular, tabs, though they may not be very intuitive currently). @2
I had not tried aptitude-gtk. I now gave it a reasonable try. The first thing that stroke me was bugs and missing features, but I eventually succeeded to do some basic operations. I did not really try the original aptitude, so it’s possible that aptitude-gtk is comparable to it. Nevertheless, aptitude-gtk would have to “compete” with Synaptic, and there’s a long way to go before getting there. That said, some aspects were interesting (in particular, tabs, though they may not be very intuitive currently).

]]> By: Tomas Pospisek http://www.milliways.fr/2009/02/02/debian-2008-where-now-3/comment-page-1/#comment-1476 Tomas Pospisek Thu, 12 Feb 2009 23:18:56 +0000 http://www.milliways.fr/?p=90#comment-1476 Very, very nice research Obey. Very interesting and hopefully also effective! Thanks! Very, very nice research Obey. Very interesting and hopefully also effective! Thanks!

]]> By: Obey Arthur Liu http://www.milliways.fr/2009/02/02/debian-2008-where-now-3/comment-page-1/#comment-1413 Obey Arthur Liu Mon, 09 Feb 2009 23:03:01 +0000 http://www.milliways.fr/?p=90#comment-1413 @1 Sure aptitude-gtk is still in experimental, but I wouldn't say it needs a "lot of work". Did you try it ? Except for some rare exceptions, all features from aptitude-ncurses are here, and they are easy to fix. You could say that there is some tweaking left to be true to the "usability" part of the original proposal but I think that we went through many improvements on that aspect since september. I did mention in my talk that we should have projects that would give tangible results at the end of the summer, or be retargeted timely to do so during the summer. My proposal was to finish off aptitude-gtk at the end of august, retrospectively, I think that we only now are in the state I was planning aptitude to attain in september during the proposal phase but I also knew that even if I couldn't finish, my mentor would be mentivated to actively complete the project. I already had a hard time finding informations about 2008, so I didn't pursue summaries of the previous years. You can find some information of the <a href="http://wiki.debian.org/SummerOfCode2006" rel="nofollow">2006 wiki page</a>. @1
Sure aptitude-gtk is still in experimental, but I wouldn’t say it needs a “lot of work”. Did you try it ? Except for some rare exceptions, all features from aptitude-ncurses are here, and they are easy to fix. You could say that there is some tweaking left to be true to the “usability” part of the original proposal but I think that we went through many improvements on that aspect since september.

I did mention in my talk that we should have projects that would give tangible results at the end of the summer, or be retargeted timely to do so during the summer. My proposal was to finish off aptitude-gtk at the end of august, retrospectively, I think that we only now are in the state I was planning aptitude to attain in september during the proposal phase but I also knew that even if I couldn’t finish, my mentor would be mentivated to actively complete the project.

I already had a hard time finding informations about 2008, so I didn’t pursue summaries of the previous years. You can find some information of the 2006 wiki page.

]]> By: Philippe Cloutier http://www.milliways.fr/2009/02/02/debian-2008-where-now-3/comment-page-1/#comment-1393 Philippe Cloutier Mon, 09 Feb 2009 04:53:43 +0000 http://www.milliways.fr/?p=90#comment-1393 I think it's too early to call some projects successful. aptitude-gtk is still in experimental and needs a lot of work. Debexpo seems to be closer to completion, but it hasn't been put in production yet AFAICT. Debian seems to have a tendency to choose big projects which are not necessarily going to be successful right at the end of the GSoC. The question for me is whether these projects, as left at the end of the summer, will be eventually picked up or continued, and achieve success. For these ends, an interesting analysis should look at the 2006 SoC projects. Unfortunately, I'm not aware of such analyses. We're lacking information on the results of SoC-s. Thanks for working on this. I think it’s too early to call some projects successful. aptitude-gtk is still in experimental and needs a lot of work. Debexpo seems to be closer to completion, but it hasn’t been put in production yet AFAICT.

Debian seems to have a tendency to choose big projects which are not necessarily going to be successful right at the end of the GSoC. The question for me is whether these projects, as left at the end of the summer, will be eventually picked up or continued, and achieve success. For these ends, an interesting analysis should look at the 2006 SoC projects.

Unfortunately, I’m not aware of such analyses. We’re lacking information on the results of SoC-s. Thanks for working on this.

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